Bhumihar

It not support of this time. Unity is neccessary for us In this time

tu sala bahut barha haramkhor hai. tere ko danadan gaali par rahi par tu besharm apni chaddhi khol ke phir bhi gaand mara raha hai. kutte ke pille bhumihar tumhari chuttad pe hunter maarne chaahiye

what do you mean by shala

dont write this type of illigal comments.

(Posted by guest: sudhir)

I am very much dissappointed after going through various postings in the site.It is either too much of glorification or the language is too much abusive.It only reflects the hostilities between various casts of Bihar.There are several casts in other states also.But so much hostility is not there.Perhaps this is the most important reason for our backwardness.The same Biharies excell when they migrate to other states or countries.Friends,if you are really interested i welfare of your cast do it constructively.Help your castmen,but not at the cost of others.Recently, I had a chance to go through a book on cast in Indian politics.There is a chapter on Nadars of Tamilnadu.They were a socially deprived cast.Just go through the article.We can learn a lot.Freinds,Nadars were an utterly deprived cast.Yet they helped the cmmunity in most constructive way.

It is a continuation of my previous posting.I went through this site in search of some serious material on history of Bhumihars.But I didnot find any report on the subject.I would like to say something on the oft quoted legend of Parashuram.Sometime ago, I had a chance of going through Swamy Sahajanand Saraswati's book on Bhumihars.He was educated in religeous subjects at Kashi.He was invited by Bhumihar Brahman Mahasabha to attend one of their sessions.In those days the Mahasabha was dominated by Bhumihar Jamindars.These jamindars made a specific request to Swamyji to propopate the legend of Bhumihars to stress that they are separate from other Brahmans and to substantiate the theme he should twist the legend of Parashurama in that way .Swamyji immediatly saw through their game.Being Jamindars these people were too much loyal to British rule.Their aim was to create rift within the society to weeken the freedom mvement.He not only refused to oblige the jamindars but also decided to counter this propaganda.He collected details about marriage between various Brahman subcasts including Bhumihars and conclusively proved that Bhumihars are also Brahmans.To propogate his viws he wrote his famous book on Bhumihar Brahman Samaj.However, he didnot explain in detail as to why and how Bhumihar subcast evolved.Other Brahmans like Kanyakubj,Sarayuparins,Maithils etc were grouped on regional basis.But this subcast is separated on the basis of their profession.While,other Brahmans practiced priesthood,bhumihars practiced farming.No doubt,there are similar brahman groups in other parts of the country;like Tyagies in West U.P.,Mohiyals in Punjab etc.These Brahman sub groups didnot practice priesthood like Bhumihars.On this basis some people claim that these subgroups are of same subcast.However, traditionally this is not the case.Due to geographical,cultural and linguistic differences these sub gruops have been in existence as separate subcasts.Marriages among these subcasts are recent phenomena;although I would like to encourage such development.But evolution of such subgroups of Brahmans has not been explained properly.Afterall,why a subgroup of Bramans abondoned priesthood.Further,while existence of Brahmans is more or less uniform throughout the country,except tribal pockets,Bhumihar like brahman subcasts are scattered here and there only.Their presence is not that uniform.These aspects needs to be studied in detail and deep research is required.Thanks Chakrapani

please not open caste case, this time world is changing, please do not open this type of language, iam salkadweep, brahmin, they come from iron some people says that , they are coming with big birdon them, , they are not taking any daan from pooja, at hat time some give them gold in food so that they can't go back due to bird is not fly, we respect each other must for national integreation please , my email address is emailkashiath@yahoo.com most of the bhumihar people play games within family, they dont want to develop the bihar , always creat problems, in which village rajput lives the village develop them, so that you can think that please.

(Posted by guest: kashinath)

Dear Manoj, Sakaldwipis or Magadh are not Doglas they are well respected Brahmins the Kankubj and u must be Dogla with no mention in Vedas and Upanishads. The of Kingdom 'Magadh' term is derived from 'Mag' brahmins or also 'Magi' pronounouned as Mazi in western world. The name Magadh is derived from Mag Brahmins who were the original inhibitants on Magadh region

(Posted by guest: Ashish Mishra)

dear mishra ji,

It is well known that sakaldwipi's are not of vedic or aryan heritage but they belong to saka or scythian race. It is well known that vedic people consider all non-vedic people as mlecchha. Therefore you are mleccha or glorified shudra.

I hope that clarifies all your doubt.

-sri sat pratishat aryan pundit

(Posted by guest: pundit ji)

Sakaldwipies may not be Vedic people,but they are definitely of Aryan stock as Shakas were also Aryans,albeit,Iranian speaking.Further, they were invited by Shri Krishna to cure his grandson Samba from 'Kushta'.They were renowned Sun worshippers.The famous Varahmihira was also Shakyadwipi Brahmin.Further, there are scholars who believe that Shakas were also part of Aryans who migrated to India alongwith Vedic Aryans.Thanks

irani worship ahura (asura) and indra is slayed by ahura mazda. You are ulat vedvaasi therefore, you sakaldeepi are mleccha.

Mag Brahamins is the representative of Sun on the earth. After sunset you cann't do anything during the Aunthesti or sarada but if shakaldwipiya brahmins is present here you can do i.e. means it is representative of Sun.

ok

Trying to denigrade the others subcast ?? , is that what a brahmin supposed to do ??, I think you are not a brahmin, if your thinking process is such. And tell me which historian has said that salkaldwipi is a muslim, I feel like laghing about your understanding. the Muslim religion was established less than 1000 years ago, and atleast I know one distinct family in Bhagalpur (Mr Tarini Prasad Mishra, at bhikhanpur, bhagalpur, bihar) whose family tree traces much before that. Infact I have met Mr T P Mishra's desendeds as well and seen the "Vanshawali". Please update your knowledge before embarking on any such denigrading act. You are denigrading your subcast in the world if you write in this manner. Hope you understand

(Posted by guest: Nirmalendu Mishra)

Thank you Mr.Mishra.I fully endorse your views.The original posting was definitely not Brahman like.As per tradition,no less than a person(our supreme GOD)like Lord Shri Krishna invited Sakaldwipi Brahmans from Sakaldwip to cure his grandson Samba.Samba was suffering from Kushta.The learned Brahmans finally cured Samba.The then Sakaldwipi Brahmans were well known Sun worshipers.Lord Shri Krishna constructed a magnificent Sun Temple at a place now known as Multan(Pakistan)for them.Infact, when Arabs occupied Sindh in early part of 8th cenury, they felt threatened by surrounding Hindu kings and they threatened Hindus by telling them that they will destroy the Temple if they are attacked.However,the temple was finally destroyed by invading Turks.Perhaps, subsequent Sun temples in other parts of the country were constructed as a follow up of the Sun temple of Multan.I would also like to inform that Sakaldwip is located at a place which is now in Iran where Iran's boundry meets with the boundries of Afganistan and Balochistan.I am fortunate enough to have passed over the Sakaldwip, while going to USSR by air.I could see and indentify lake which our Puranas have named as 'Dadhimond Sagar'.The lake is formed by discharge of rivers from Afganistan.Thanks Chakrapani

Mishra ji
katu satya sun ke aap ko gussa aa raha hai. par main jhooth nahi bol sakta. There are two theories. Sakaldwip are irani priest aur aap ko bataoon irani ulatwaasi hote hain. dekhiye
1. For us indra is God and asuras are devil but for iranian ahura mazda is God and indra is the devil
2. We are somvanshi and iraninan are suryavanshi. Hence sakwaldwipi are not brahmin. Other theory is that they are schythian and shaka are not aryan. In any case sakwaldipi are not brahmin.
Anyway, what is the point and why do you care?

(Posted by guest: pundit ji)

Mag brahamins is origin of Auraved and astrology

sakal dwipies r definately brahmans becoz at that time when the grand son of shri krishna means sambha was suffering to the "kushta"at that time only sakaldwipis were able to save him because they were UPASHAK of surya.so they r brahmans becoz only brahamans be UPASHAK.

Shakaldwipies are definitely Brahmans.Shakas were definitely aryans.Shakas spoke Iranian. Iranians and Aryans of India and Pashto speaking people of Afganistan are the only recognised Aryans.Threfore, Shakaldwipies also are of Aryan stock.Indra has not been depicted as devil in 'Awesta'.He is just a lesser god.In many stanzas of Rigved also Asuras have been praised like Gods.Perhaps originally the the word 'Asura' didnot mean devil.It is a much later variation.From Rigved one can safely conclude that Rigvedic Aryans fought with 'Dasas' and 'Dasyues' and not Asuras.Many scholars believe that in Iranian tradition, Lord Varuna finally evolved into 'Ahur Mazda'and the supreme Rigvedic God 'Indra' is transformed into a lesser god.In India also, Indra finally turned into a minor god.It should be noted that 'Somras' ritual is still practiced by Parasies.In one of the ancient Iranian inscriptions,one branch of shakas have been classified as 'Homwargia'.Infact,many scholars believe that Shakas probably were one of the constituent of Rigvedic Aryans.Finally, it should be noted that Shakaldwipies have been given a status of Brahman by our ancesters and they were not fools.

are bhai aap ko malum nahi hai ki devil word or deva men kya similarity hai. google men search kijiye tab pata chalega ki bible ka satan was borrowed from the persian. farsi men deva is equivalent to what we call asura and what we call asura is equivalent to deva. indra is not a minor god in farsi, he is a major asura. from avesta After thou hast thrice said those Thris-amrutas, thou shalt say aloud these victorious, most healing words:- '"I drive away Indra, I drive away Sauru, I drive away the Daeva Naunghaithya, from this house, from this borough, from this town, from this land; from the very body of the man defiled by the dead, from the very body of the woman defiled by the dead;from the master of the house, from the lord of the borough, from the lord of the town, from the lord of the land; from the whole of the world of Righteousness

Shakaldwipies are definitely Brahmans.Shakas were definitely aryans.Shakas spoke Iranian. Iranians and Aryans of India and Pashto speaking people of Afganistan are recognised as Aryans.

Dear All , use this webplace to integrate learning and knowledge. Who is pure in this world. One must try to remain but in practice it is very difficult to be so? Dogle are better and have good points from both side i.e.father and mother. But when bad quality are assimilated than they are worst. U c gandhis are meeting with nalini . BJP wale went in plane to deport aatankwadis and get back few indians. Sab saale neta desh ke dushman hai. Sipahi lar kar mar jata hai. aur ye netal sale do minute ki meeting kar boundary line draw karte hai. .